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Old 11-11-2003, 10:25 AM   #1
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Cool Random Chaos League

I've had some fun using AllenMar's Modified Ankit Database for a league, so I decided to run a league from 1901 to the present on the forums.

For those of you who don't know the twist on this database, here's a quick synopsis from the creator himself:

"This is a modified copy of the Ankit DB for OOTP5.

All players in DB have had their debut year changed to a random number from 1895-1994.

Their birthday was changed accordingly so they debut at same age as in real life.

Also the pitching, batting and fielding stats by year were changed to match debut and subsequent
revised years.

Since I wanted a FRESH start for league all stats for years prior to 1901 were removed from DB after year changes.

By starting in 1901 you will have enough still active players for an initial draft of 35 rds for 16 teams.

Every year after that there is an average of 118 players debuting, with least # 94 and highest 139.


I'm importing the players in 1901, releasing all and holding a Fantasy Draft with the original 16 teams.

I'm not going to follow history exactly. Instead I will use the following settings:
  • Expansion will occur in '31, '61 and '91, by 4 teams each time
  • I will not be moving franchises. Subsequent team names will be chosen from the Negro Leagues, the Pacific League, defunct teams and actual expansion teams, depending upon regional needs
  • In 1931, the leagues will add 4 teams, switching to 2 divisions of 5 teams in each league
  • In 1961, the leagues will add 4 teams, switching to 3 divisions of 4 teams in each league. At this time the schedule will increase to 162 games from 154 games.
  • In 1991, the leagues will add 4 teams, remaining at 3 divisions
  • The DH will NEVER exist
  • Finances will be turned off until Free Agency begins in 1971
  • There will be no salary cap. Max Cash will be set at $100M
  • When Finances are turned on, all teams will be set to Average
  • Coaches/Scouts will be turned OFF
  • Injuries will be set to Normal
  • Trade Difficulty will be set to Normal and Neutral
  • At the beginning of each season, I will hit "Recalculate for Historical Accuracy"
  • I will draft for the Brooklyn franchise before each season, but I will leave all other decisions to the AI
  • All teams will play in Old League Park
  • The Most Valuable Player Award will be called Slugger of the Year until 1931, at which point it will be renamed in honor of the best slugger to date
  • The "Cy Young" will be called Ace of the Year until 1931, at which point it will be renamed in honor of the best pitcher to date

Should be cool
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Old 11-11-2003, 10:52 AM   #2
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Sounds cool. I'll be following.
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Here are some of the top batters in the draft pool, listed by Talent in Hits/HR/BB:

Ross Barnes - 2b B/P/F
Ed Delahanty - CF B/F/A
Frank Thomas - 1b G/B/B
Todd Helton - 1b G/B/G
Hank Aaron - 1b G/B/G
Joe Cronin - SS G/A/G
Paul O'Neill - RF G/G/G
Jack Clark - RF A/B/B
Jim Gentile - 1b A/B/G
Cupid Childs - 2b G/P/B

....and the top pitchers listed by Hits/HR/BB allowed(actually a pretty weak pool)

Mordecai Brown - SP G/G/G
Will "Whoop" White - SP G/G/B
Frank Mountain - SP G/G/G
Eddie Cicotte - SP G/G/G
Charlie Ferguson - SP G/G/B
Sid Monge - SP G/B/A
Tomo Ohka - SP G/A/B
Zach Day - MR B/B/A
Joe Grzenda - MR G/B/G
Mike Stanton - MR G/B/A
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Here's the draft order, determined by clicking "Random Draft Order". Since it is the Initial Draft, it will be Serpentine

1 Chicago(N)
2 Cleveland
3 Philadelphia(N)
4 Washington
5 Detroit
6 Brooklyn
7 Philadelphia (A)
8 Chicago(A)
9 Boston(A)
10 Baltimore
11 Boston(N)
12 St. Louis
13 Pittsburgh
14 New York
15 Cincinnati
16 Milwaukee
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Here are the results for the first 10 rounds of the Initial Draft. I drafted for the Brooklyn Superbas. It should be a good first couple years, because the AI made some weird draft picks.

Round 1:

Chicago (N) pick: P Will White
Cleveland pick: P Mordecai Brown
Philadelphia (N) pick: C Frank Thomas
Washington pick: P Charlie Ferguson
Detroit pick: LF Gates Brown
Brooklyn pick: 1B Todd Helton
Philadelphia (A) pick: P Frank Mountain
Chicago (A) pick: P Eddie Cicotte
Boston (A) pick: P John Ewing
Baltimore pick: P Orval Overall
Boston (N) pick: P Tony Mullane
St. Louis pick: 2B Ross Barnes
Pittsburgh pick: P Al Atkinson
New York pick: P Big jeff Pfeffer
Cincinnati pick: P Pete Harnisch
Milwaukee pick: LF Bug Holliday


Round 2 :

Milwaukee pick: P John Smoltz
Cincinnati pick: RF Jermaine Dye
New York pick: 1B Erubiel Durazo
Pittsburgh pick: 3B Scott Rolen
St. Louis pick: CF Ray Lankford
Boston (N) pick: SS George Davis
Baltimore pick: SS Joe Cronin
Boston (A) pick: CF Jack Lelivelt
Chicago (A) pick: CF Fred Schulte
Philadelphia (A) pick: 1B Mike Hargrove
Brooklyn pick: RF Hank Aaron - No clue how he dropped this far
Detroit pick: P Pete Schneider
Washington pick: 1B Eddie Murray
Philadelphia (N) pick: P Ross Grimsley
Cleveland pick: 3B Steve Bilko
Chicago (N) pick: SS Frank Connaughton


Round 3 :

Chicago (N) pick: 1B Ron Fairly
Cleveland pick: CF Johnny Frederick
Philadelphia (N) pick: 3B Ned Williamson
Washington pick: RF Dell Darling
Detroit pick: C Joe Sugden
Brooklyn pick: P Willie Mitchell - I realized that pitching was getting VERY THIN
Philadelphia (A) pick: 2B Eddie Stanky
Chicago (A) pick: CF Carlos Beltran
Boston (A) pick: C Ben Petrick
Baltimore pick: RF Dave Parker
Boston (N) pick: P Tommy Bridges
St. Louis pick: P Hank Borowy
Pittsburgh pick: CF Bill Lange
New York pick: C Earl Battey
Cincinnati pick: C Carl Sawatski
Milwaukee pick: P Mark Gubicza


Round 4 :

Milwaukee pick: 3B Ken Keltner
Cincinnati pick: P Walt Dickson
New York pick: P George Zettlein
Pittsburgh pick: P Edward Daily
St. Louis pick: P Earl Moore
Boston (N) pick: P Harry Staley
Baltimore pick: P Hugh Casey
Boston (A) pick: P Ed Murphy
Chicago (A) pick: P Ned Garvin
Philadelphia (A) pick: CF Mule Haas
Brooklyn pick: 2B Cupid Childs Another player who should not have dropped this far
Detroit pick: P Lou Kretlow
Washington pick: P Manny Salvo
Philadelphia (N) pick: C Sherm Lollar
Cleveland pick: P George Suggs
Chicago (N) pick: P Shane Reynolds


Round 5 :

Chicago (N) pick: P Bob Porterfield
Cleveland pick: P Mack Allison
Philadelphia (N) pick: P Clarence Mitchell
Washington pick: P Dave Wickersham
Detroit pick: P Ed Figueroa
Brooklyn pick: P Pete Vuckovich
Philadelphia (A) pick: P Dennis Eckersley
Chicago (A) pick: P Harry Moran
Boston (A) pick: P James Seymour
Baltimore pick: P Jim Hughey
Boston (N) pick: LF Bob Cerv
St. Louis pick: P Johnny Sain
Pittsburgh pick: 1B Stuffy Mcinnis
New York pick: P Jack Mcdowell
Cincinnati pick: P Sid Monge
Milwaukee pick: P Mike Witt


Round 6 :

Milwaukee pick: SS Mike Bordick
Cincinnati pick: P Oral Hildebrand
New York pick: 3B Larry Gardner
Pittsburgh pick: P Al Gerheauser
St. Louis pick: P Don Aase
Boston (N) pick: 1B Jimmy Knowles
Baltimore pick: P Larry Gura
Boston (A) pick: P Mark Lemongello
Chicago (A) pick: P Bobby Thigpen
Philadelphia (A) pick: RF Paul O'neill
Brooklyn pick: CF Ed Delahanty - Yet another guy who was skipped by the AI
Detroit pick: 1B Jim Gentile
Washington pick: P Rick Waits
Philadelphia (N) pick: P Freddie Fitzsimmons
Cleveland pick: CF Kenny Lofton
Chicago (N) pick: C Harry Danning


Round 7 :

Chicago (N) pick: 2B Delino Deshields
Cleveland pick: P Joe Grzenda
Philadelphia (N) pick: P Gordon Maltzberger
Washington pick: LF Terry Francona
Detroit pick: P Don Mossi
Brooklyn pick: 2B Jay Bell - Actually a dumb pick, since I already had Childs
Philadelphia (A) pick: P Geoff Zahn
Chicago (A) pick: P Tomokazu Ohka
Boston (A) pick: 1B Eric Karros
Baltimore pick: CF Harry Stovey
Boston (N) pick: 3B Bill Mueller
St. Louis pick: P Joe Sambito
Pittsburgh pick: SS Rick Burleson
New York pick: P Frank Castillo
Cincinnati pick: SS Tony Fernandez
Milwaukee pick: CF Jim Russell


Round 8 :

Milwaukee pick: P Fred Mitchell
Cincinnati pick: RF George Case
New York pick: CF Ellis Burks
Pittsburgh pick: P Stan Williams
St. Louis pick: RF Jack Clark
Boston (N) pick: RF Bobby Bonds
Baltimore pick: 2B Roberto Mejia
Boston (A) pick: RF Carl Reynolds
Chicago (A) pick: 2B Ernest Riles
Philadelphia (A) pick: P Fred Hutchinson
Brooklyn pick: C Chad Moeller - Solid guy in a weak position
Detroit pick: 3B Bill Everitt
Washington pick: P Pat Perry
Philadelphia (N) pick: P Pat Underwood
Cleveland pick: P Juan Cruz
Chicago (N) pick: LF R.j. Reynolds


Round 9 :

Chicago (N) pick: 3B Shane Andrews
Cleveland pick: LF Charlie Frank
Philadelphia (N) pick: LF Gary Redus
Washington pick: 2B Julian Javier
Detroit pick: CF Ken Hunt
Brooklyn pick: P Bob Osborn
Philadelphia (A) pick: RF Ben Oglivie
Chicago (A) pick: SS Eddie Bressoud
Boston (A) pick: SS Mike Moynahan
Baltimore pick: LF Matty Mcintyre
Boston (N) pick: C Tommy Clarke
St. Louis pick: 1B Brook Jacoby
Pittsburgh pick: RF Derek Bell
New York pick: RF Bruce Campbell
Cincinnati pick: 2B Milt Stock
Milwaukee pick: RF Jack Mccarthy


Round 10 :

Milwaukee pick: P Stump Wiedman
Cincinnati pick: 3B Ron Hunt
New York pick: SS Mike Tyson
Pittsburgh pick: 2B Jeff Gardner
St. Louis pick: P Bob Buhl
Boston (N) pick: P Ray Benge
Baltimore pick: P Greg Garrett
Boston (A) pick: CF Bill Bruton
Chicago (A) pick: 1B Mike Hegan
Philadelphia (A) pick: LF Bruce Aven
Brooklyn pick: 3B Ron Cey - a steal at this point in the draft
Detroit pick: RF Leon Durham
Washington pick: P William Van landingham
Philadelphia (N) pick: RF Kevin Bass
Cleveland pick: 1B Don Lund
Chicago (N) pick: CF Paul Hines


The draft went 35 rounds. I'll be setting injuries to Low the first year to account for the dearth of players
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Old 11-11-2003, 11:56 AM   #6
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1901 BROOKLYN SUPERBAS

Batters

Name Age Pos AVG 2B 3B HR BB K Spe Sta Def. Range
T. Helton 24 1B 7 7 2 7 4 7 D D A
H. Aaron 24 RF 7 6 4 7 3 8 C B C
E. Delahanty 22 CF 6 5 14 1 2 8 A B A
J. Bell 28 2B 5 8 5 3 5 4 D E A
C. Moeller 27 C 5 9 6 3 6 3 E E A
C. Childs 23 2B 5 4 12 1 8 8 B A B
C. Yastrzemski 21 LF 5 5 6 3 4 6 D D C
R. Cey 26 3B 5 3 2 4 5 7 E E D
J. Tavener 28 SS 5 4 15 0 5 7 C D B
B. Freehan 24 C 3 4 1 3 3 6 E B B
W.Wietelmann 25 2B 4 4 2 1 4 8 E E C
J. Marty 25 CF 2 2 1 4 2 5 D E B
W. Kirby 31 RF 2 5 6 1 3 5 C B D
O. Canseco 26 LF 3 2 1 0 2 7 E E C
J. Lipon 19 SS 2 1 1 0 3 8 D E B
R. Leach 27 LF 3 2 14 0 2 4 E E B
R. Branyan 22 LF 2 3 4 1 1 6 D E B
H. Majeski 25 3B 2 3 2 1 2 5 E E C
V. Romo 32 CF 2 3 4 1 1 5 E E C
D. Allen 27 1B 2 2 4 1 1 5 E E C
W. Aikens 30 1B 1 2 2 1 2 6 E E C

Pitchers

Name Age Role ERA AVG HR BB K Dur. SP Dur. RP
W. Mitchell 24 SP 7 7 10 4 5 B C
P. Vuckovich 26 SP 6 6 7 7 5 B C
B. Osborn 22 SP 4 4 9 5 2 A C
C. Upshaw 30 CL 5 6 7 5 4 - C
J. Johnson 22 SP 3 5 4 5 4 D C
C. Hernandez 20 SP 4 6 4 4 6 E -
T. Leach 32 MR 5 6 5 5 3 - C
M. Garman 19 SP 1 4 4 4 4 D -
T. Edens 25 SP 0 3 6 4 4 E -
M. Buddie 31 MR 1 4 6 4 5 - B
B. Smith 31 MR 0 4 5 3 4 - C
B. Snyder 27 SP 0 2 2 1 2 E C
M. Picone 23 MR 0 1 1 0 1 E A

As you can see, good offense, nice prospects, but pretty weak pitching. We'll see how it goes.
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Old 11-11-2003, 12:15 PM   #7
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Gotta love Helton and Aaron on the same team.

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1901 Results
American Standings

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Philadelphia (A) 90 64 .584 - 97-57 -7 49-28 41-36 2-9 24-29 * L2 4-6
Milwaukee 81 73 .526 9.0 85-69 -4 37-40 44-33 5-5 28-29 - L1 5-5
Cleveland 76 78 .494 14.0 75-79 1 37-40 39-38 9-5 22-23 - W2 4-6
Baltimore 75 79 .487 15.0 75-79 0 43-34 32-45 8-9 20-24 - L1 4-6
Boston (A) 74 80 .481 16.0 78-76 -4 40-37 34-43 8-6 20-26 - W1 7-3
Chicago (A) 74 80 .481 16.0 69-85 5 37-40 37-40 14-10 29-24 - W2 6-4
Detroit 74 80 .481 16.0 67-87 7 29-48 45-32 5-11 27-20 - L2 4-6
Washington 72 82 .468 18.0 71-83 1 41-36 31-46 10-6 27-22 - W1 6-4

National Standings

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Chicago (N) 89 65 .578 - 97-57 -8 41-36 48-29 7-9 20-29 * W6 7-3
Boston (N) 83 71 .539 6.0 72-82 11 47-30 36-41 12-6 38-26 - L1 6-4
Pittsburgh 82 72 .532 7.0 81-73 1 40-37 42-35 10-11 28-27 - W1 6-4
New York 81 73 .526 8.0 87-67 -6 44-33 37-40 10-11 29-28 - L1 3-7
Cincinnati 77 77 .500 12.0 78-76 -1 42-35 35-42 5-10 27-34 - W1 6-4
Brooklyn 73 81 .474 16.0 74-80 -1 43-34 30-47 6-8 26-23 - W1 5-5
St. Louis 70 84 .455 19.0 66-88 4 37-40 33-44 15-2 30-21 - L1 7-3
Philadelphia (N) 61 93 .396 28.0 61-93 0 28-49 33-44 3-11 23-33 - L10 0-10

Well, it looks as if my draft wasn't as good as I expected. The offense couldn't make up for the lack of pitching....15th in the league.

On to the inaugural World Series, pitting the Chicago Orphans versus the Philadelphia Atlhetics
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It must have been Jim Bowden himself drafting for the Reds if they took Pete Harnisch over Hank Aaron

I like the fact that all teams are playing in the same stadium, so they generate 'pure' results, if you like

Good stuff...the AL was one darn close (outside of Philly) division . Mentioning Philly, those Athletics will sure be ribbing their NL counterparts if they win it all this year while the National guys were winning (or should I say losing) at a .396 clip!
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1901 WORLD SERIES PREVIEW

CHICAGO ORPHANS - Led by Frank Connaughton (.336, 3HR, 66 RBI, 29 SB) and Ben Ogilvie (.332, 6 HR, 69 RBI), the Orphans boasted the top offense with a Team Batting Average of .280. they also led the league with 37 HR. The Chicago staff is anchored by #1 overall draft pick, Will "Whoop" White (33-14, 1.93 ERA).

PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS - The A's aren't too shabby on offense either. Mule Haas (.369, 67 RBI) won the AL batting title. Mike Hargrove (.334, 64 RBI) and Paul O'Neill (.304, 4 HR, 83 RBI) also provide some pop. Their staff is great from top to bottom with Frank Mountain (28-15, 2.28), Geoff Zahn (25-21, 2.43), and Dennis Eckersley (26-22, 2.83, 167 K). Unfortunately for Philadelphia fans, their ace, Mountain, ruptured his Elbow Ligament on 8/25/01 and is out for the season.

PREDICTION - The A's won't be able to overcome the loss of Mountain. Chicago in 6.
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1901 WORLD SERIES

GAME 1 Chicago 5 - Philly 0

With Whoop White resting an extra day, Bob Porterfield pitched a complete gem, allowing 6 hits and no walks. The Orphans took the lead in the 1st when SS Frank Connaughton lofted a solo shot with 2 outs off Geoff Zahn. They never looked back.

GAME 2 Chicago 3 - Philly 5

"Whoop" White may have needed one more day of rest as the A's evened the series at 1-1. White gave up 11 hits and 4 walks in 8 innings. Dennis Eckersley pitched a solid game for the Philly club, and provided some offense as well, going 2 for 2 with an RBI.

Game 3 Philly 2 - Chicago 0

The A's steal Game 3 in 10 innings from the boys from the Windy City. Replacement starter Brian Moehler pitches a complete game shutout as the Orphans are unable to muster any offense. Ken Keltner goes 3 for 5 and knocks the winning run across in the top of the 10th for Philadelphia.

GAME 4 Philly 5 - Chicago 1

The Orphans defense falls apart. 3 errors (2 by Shane Andrews) lead to 3 unearned runs as Geoff Zahn gets revenge for his Game 1 loss. Bruce Aven and Jorge Fabregas each knock in 2 for the A's.

GAME 5 Philly 4 - Chicago 5

The Orphans barely stay alive, winning in the 12th. Whoop White pitches all 12 innings. Frank Connaughton is the hero as he knocks Delino DeShields in with a clutch single off of Dennis Eckersley.

GAME 6 Chicago 10 - Philly 3

Back in Philly, the Orphans treat the A's to a can of Whoop Ass, knocking Brian Moehler around for 10 runs in 8 1/3 innings. Paul Hines knocks in 4 runs for Chicago, going 3 for 5 with 3 two-baggers.

Game 7 Chicago 9 - Philly 3

The Orphans remain in high gear, easily taking the final game from the Philadelphia squad. Rightfielder Bill Robinson goes 4 for 5 with 1 HR and 4 RBI for Chicago. Geoff Zahn gets knocked out in the 4th inning and the Orphans never look back.

1901 CHAMPIONS - CHICAGO ORPHANS

SERIES MVP - Paul Hines - .385 with 9 RBI


Not exactly as I predicted...interestingly, the visiting team won 5 of 7 games.
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Which Frank Thomas is it? The modern one of the one from the 50's-60's ??
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1901 AWARDS

AMERICAN LEAGUE ACE OF THE YEAR
Mordecai Brown - Cleveland Blues 30-18, 2.02 ERA, 132 K

AMERICAN LEAGUE SLUGGER OF THE YEAR
Gates Brown - Detroit Tigers .351, 7 HR, 79 RBI

NATIONAL LEAGUE ACE OF THE YEAR
Will "Whoop" White - Chicago Orphans 33-14, 1.93 ERA, 127 K

NATIONAL LEAGUE SLUGGER OF THE YEAR
Todd Helton - Brooklyn Superbas .330, 8 HR, 85 RBI

AMERICAN LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Mordecai Brown

NATIONAL LEAGUE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Will "Whoop" White
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1901 American League Gold Gloves
Pitcher: Ned Garvin, CHA
Catcher: Luke Sewell, MLA
First Base: Mike Hegan, CHA
Second Base: Ernest Riles, CHA
Third Base: Ken Keltner, PHA
Shortstop: Joe Cronin, BLA
Leftfield: Bruce Aven, PHA
Centerfield: Johnny Frederick, CLE
Rightfield: Dell Darling, WS1


1901 National League Gold Gloves
Pitcher: Big Jeff Pfeffer, NY1
Catcher: Harry Danning, CHN
First Base: Erubiel Durazo, NY1
Second Base: Joe Gerhardt, NY1
Third Base: Shane Andrews, CHN
Shortstop: George Davis, BSN
Leftfield: Carl Yastrzemski, BRO
Centerfield: Ed Delahanty, BRO
Rightfield: Hank Aaron, BRO


Check out Brooklyn with the Gold Glove outfield
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1901 Combined League Leaders

TOP 5 in BATTING AVG :
.389 Ross Barnes(NL, SLN)
.369 Mule Haas(AL, PHA)
.356 Joe Sugden(AL, DET)
.352 Dave Parker(AL, BLA)
.351 Gates Brown(AL, DET)

TOP 5 in HOMERUNS :
11 Frank Thomas(NL, PHI)
9 Erubiel Durazo(NL, NY1)
9 Shane Andrews(NL, CHN)
8 Todd Helton(NL, BRO)
8 Bob Cerv(NL, BSN)

TOP 5 in RBI :
90 Hank Aaron(NL, BRO)
85 Todd Helton(NL, BRO)
83 Paul O'neill(AL, PHA)
81 Jack Clark(NL, SLN)
80 Eddie Murray(AL, WS1)

TOP 5 in ERA :
1.83 Charlie Ferguson(AL, WS1)
1.93 Will White(NL, CHN)
2.02 Mordecai Brown(AL, CLE)
2.08 Mike Witt(AL, MLA)
2.16 Tomokazu Ohka(AL, CHA)

TOP 5 in WINS :
33 Will White(NL, CHN)
31 Harry Staley(NL, BSN)
30 Mordecai Brown(AL, CLE)
30 Clarence Mitchell(AL, BOS)
28 Frank Mountain(AL, PHA)

TOP 5 in SAVES :
10 Jake Northrop(NL, PIT)
9 Turk Farrell(NL, PIT)
8 Pat Perry(AL, WS1)
7 Don Mossi(AL, DET)
7 John Davis(NL, CIN)
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1902 Notable Rookies

A bit less this year, since there's only enough for about 6-7 rounds of drafting.

Batters (Hits/HR/BB)

CF Tris Speaker B/F/G
RF Trot Nixon A/G/G
LF Gary Roenicke A/G/G

Pitchers (Avoid Hits/Avoid HR/Avoid BB)

SP Lefty Gomez G/G/A
SP Steve Rogers G/A/G
SP Les Lancaster G/B/G
MR Franklyn German B/B/A
MR MIke Marshall G/B/G
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1902 Draft

From here on out, I'll only be posting the 1st round, plus Brooklyn's picks.

Round 1:

Philadelphia (N) pick: CF Tris Speaker
St. Louis pick: P Les Lancaster
Washington pick: P Lefty Gomez
Brooklyn pick: P Steve Rogers
Detroit pick: P Frank Knauss
Boston (A) pick: P Cherokee Fisher
Chicago (A) pick: RF Trot Nixon
Baltimore pick: 1B Earl Torgeson
Cleveland pick: P Walt Woods
Cincinnati pick: 1B Norm Siebern
New York pick: RF Ken Singleton
Milwaukee pick: P Elias Sosa
Pittsburgh pick: LF Gary Roenicke
Boston (N) pick: P Steve Howe
Chicago (N) pick: P Dan Daub
Philadelphia (A) pick: P Dick Mauney
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1902 Brooklyn Draft Picks

Draft Picks :

Round 1 pick: P Steve Rogers - Immediate ace of the staff
Round 2 pick: SS Rafael Furcal - Speed and defense. Should be able to step in to the starter job shortly, if not now.
Round 3 pick: P Jocko Thompson - Eventual solid #3 or #4 starter
Round 4 pick: P Hector Mercado - Could surprise out of the bullpen
Round 5 pick: 2B Bob Randall - a complete gamble
Round 6 pick: C Tex Erwin - Emergency backup
Round 7 pick: P Bob Tufts - Future minor league manager
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Les Lancaster as the 2nd pick...iinteresting guy. He was the manager of the Adirondack Lumberjacks (Independent Northern League) when I worked for them as the PA Announcer. Boy, I could tell you some stories...

I love the idea of this league. I didn't know this database existed...is there anything I should know before using it?
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1902 Final Standings

American League

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Washington 86 68 .558 - 92-62 -6 40-37 46-31 9-10 33-27 * L2 2-8
Boston (A) 84 70 .545 2.0 77-77 7 39-38 45-32 14-8 43-20 - L1 8-2
Philadelphia (A) 82 72 .532 4.0 87-67 -5 39-38 43-34 8-8 31-35 - L1 4-6
Baltimore 81 73 .526 5.0 82-72 -1 41-36 40-37 6-10 29-31 - W1 6-4
Cleveland 77 77 .500 9.0 74-80 3 37-40 40-37 13-7 32-28 - W3 7-3
Milwaukee 76 78 .494 10.0 78-76 -2 31-46 45-32 12-9 24-32 - W1 7-3
Chicago (A) 67 87 .435 19.0 65-89 2 30-47 37-40 2-10 25-27 - W1 3-7
Detroit 63 91 .409 23.0 65-89 -2 29-48 34-43 7-9 21-38 - L1 3-7

National League

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Brooklyn 88 66 .571 - 88-66 0 47-30 41-36 6-9 26-27 * W6 8-2
Cincinnati 87 67 .565 1.0 86-68 1 43-34 44-33 11-9 32-26 - W4 7-3
Philadelphia (N) 82 72 .532 6.0 85-69 -3 43-34 39-38 10-10 28-24 - W3 4-6
Chicago (N) 81 73 .526 7.0 79-75 2 35-42 46-31 15-7 28-25 - L4 2-8
New York 80 74 .519 8.0 80-74 0 42-35 38-39 8-7 26-25 - L4 4-6
Boston (N) 70 84 .455 18.0 69-85 1 38-39 32-45 7-10 24-29 - W1 6-4
Pittsburgh 68 86 .442 20.0 66-88 2 34-43 34-43 7-8 27-31 - L1 4-6
St. Louis 60 94 .390 28.0 63-91 -3 29-48 31-46 6-10 18-22 - L3 5-5



Quite a turn-around for the Washington club, going from worst to first. In the NL, Brooklyn clinched the pennant on the last day, winning by one game over Cincy.
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